Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/16/2004 01:20 PM House JUD

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SB 344 - TRUSTS/ESTATES/PROPERTY TRANSFERS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0033                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be SENATE BILL  NO. 344, "An Act relating to  the Uniform Probate                                                               
Code and trusts, including  pleadings, orders, nonprobate assets,                                                               
estates  of decedents,  minors, protected  persons, incapacitated                                                               
persons,  guardians,  conservators,   trustees,  foreign  trusts,                                                               
principal  and income,  and  transfer  restrictions; relating  to                                                               
corporate voting trusts; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0073                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  moved to adopt  the proposed  House committee                                                               
substitute  (HCS) for  SB  344,  Version 23-LS1694\H,  Bannister,                                                               
4/16/04, as the work draft.   There being no objection, Version H                                                               
was before the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0094                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRIAN  HOVE,  Staff  to  Senator   Ralph  Seekins,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, sponsor, on behalf  of Senator Seekins, relayed that                                                               
members  of the  group  that created  the bill  were  on line  to                                                               
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA directed  attention to  page 5,  lines 5-10,                                                               
subsection (b), which read:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     (b)   If  a  trustee  petitions a  court  for an  order                                                                    
     approving  a  report   that  adequately  discloses  the                                                                    
     existence of  a potential  claim, serves the  report on                                                                    
     all beneficiaries to be bound  by the report, and gives                                                                    
     the  beneficiaries  at least  90  days'  notice of  the                                                                    
     court   proceeding,  all   potential   claims  of   the                                                                    
     beneficiaries  against the  trustee  are barred  unless                                                                    
     the claims  are served  on the  trustee and  filed with                                                                    
     the  court  within  60  days  after  the  beneficiaries                                                                    
     receive the report.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  asked whether the beneficiaries  could still                                                               
bring up  a claim during  the proceeding mentioned  in subsection                                                               
(b) if the 60-day deadline has passed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0270                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  G. SHAFTEL,  Attorney  at  Law, Law  Offices  of David  G.                                                               
Shaftel,  PC,  replied that  according  to  his understanding  of                                                               
subsection (b),  the claim would  have to be asserted  during the                                                               
60-day  period;  that  claim  could  then  be  resolved  in  that                                                               
proceeding  or in  a separate  proceeding.   He surmised  that if                                                               
there are amendments  to the claim or matters that  a court would                                                               
consider  to  be  associated  with the  claim,  the  court  could                                                               
consider  those even  if  the  60-day deadline  has  passed.   In                                                               
response to a further question, he said:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     If  you're having  a formal  court  proceeding and  you                                                                    
     have notified  the beneficiary that that  is occurring,                                                                    
     ... they  would need  to bring  those claims  within 60                                                                    
     days.  ... But  certainly  I would  expect that  courts                                                                    
     would  allow  for  a broad  variety  of  amendments  to                                                                    
     refine the claim.   If the claim was,  for example, ...                                                                    
     a matter relating to a  certain asset or ... [the fact]                                                                    
     that there's  an asset missing  or these  numbers don't                                                                    
     look right  on this  account, then  that could  well be                                                                    
     refined after the 60-day period,  but they [would] have                                                                    
     brought  the general  essence of  the claim  within the                                                                    
     60-day period.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  asked  Mr.  Shaftel  whether  it  would  be                                                               
alright to add language at the  end of proposed subsection (b) to                                                               
indicate  that  a   claim  could  also  be   brought  during  the                                                               
proceeding  even  if the  proceeding  occurred  after the  60-day                                                               
period.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAFTEL replied:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     In our  discussions about this  procedure we  felt that                                                                    
     for  there to  be a  meaningful court  proceeding, that                                                                    
     both  sides would  need  to know  what  the claims  are                                                                    
     before the proceeding began so  that they could respond                                                                    
     to them and  hopefully resolve them at that  point.  So                                                                    
     that's why we  put in that prior to the  actual date of                                                                    
     the  proceeding, there'd  be a  cutoff, and  that's why                                                                    
     it's 90 days with a  60-day cutoff, so that the trustee                                                                    
     would know,  generally, what claims are  being brought,                                                                    
     so the trustee could respond to them at that hearing.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  directed  attention to  Section  7  of                                                               
Version H and asked Mr. Shaftel whether it meets his needs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAFTEL said yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0688                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA made  a motion to adopt Amendment  1, on page                                                               
5, line 14,  replace "12 months" with "two years".   He indicated                                                               
that this  change was amenable  to those who brought  the concept                                                               
of the bill forth.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOVE  said if  the experts  in the  industry are  amenable to                                                               
Amendment 1, so is the sponsor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHAFTEL  said that his  group discussed this  proposed change                                                               
at length and  decided that as long as it  wouldn't delay passage                                                               
of the bill, they were amenable to it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0811                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG objected to Amendment 1.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  clarified  that  Amendment  1  would  change  "12                                                               
months" to "24 months".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0837                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Gara, Gruenberg,                                                               
and McGuire voted  in favor of Amendment 1.   Representatives Ogg                                                               
and Holm  voted against it.   Therefore, Amendment 1  was adopted                                                               
by a vote of 3-2.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0846                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLM moved to report  the proposed HCS for SB 344,                                                               
Version  23-LS1694\H,  Bannister,  4/16/04, as  amended,  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
[zero] fiscal notes.   There being no objection,  HCS SB 344(JUD)                                                               
was reported from the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

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